That article regarding Tim is interesting-- I remember listening to a video on YouTube about Redeemer's "missional" statement.... he was saying that Redeemer's way of bringing people (or unbelievers) into church and getting them to stay there is to basically not offend them.... to not scare them off with "Christian-speak" but rather make them aware that Christians are just like them! But I thought Christians are to be separate from the world?! His theology sometimes falls more under the guise of "human wisdom"; and, by doing so, lessens the power of the Holy Spirit. I understand the fear of offending someone by telling them the truth. But, for a pastor, it's a shame how some are afraid to offend the unbeliever/ believer. I think this could also be one of the reasons why so many are leaving the church or looking for other means to "find" or "encounter/ experience" God.... because they have no idea how much sin offends God or how to biblically develop their relationship in Christ.