We Heard This Week from Tim Keller Himself at Redeemer

Tim Keller does not seem happy, as our team has been researching and making a stand for the Bible in NYC against error being taught at Redeemer Presbyterian Church. Jonathan heard from Tim directly, and I will be writing more about that interaction soon on the blog.

This blog post shows why Christians are often mocked on the Internet, called "divisive" with ad homenim attacks against our character. Have we done anything "crazy"? Not one thing crazy, except for making a stand for the Bible and knowing God's Word well enough to defend it. The egos of the false teachers can be ruthless, as the deceiving spirit at work hates the Holy Spirit (in us.) This email explains why I wrote a whole song about not being a sychophant to ego driven pastors just last month. When a pastor or elder cannot ever be told they are wrong and teaching something contrary to Scripture, we will either stand for the Bible or bow the knee to humanism. Our team in NYC has decided to only bow the knee to Jesus, not man.

Below are some of the topics of discussion and comments from our team causing quite a stir. On whether or not we should remain silent against error, here is what our team in NYC had to say:

"Ron Choong's [pastor at Redeemer Pres.] knowledge is FALSE. If we rely on the Holy Spirit to speak for us and not worry about looking stupid or what the consequences might be, the Holy Spirit will speak for us. He should remember the world hates Christ. Anyway, I have experienced this. I remember saying things and thinking afterwords, 'Where did that come from?' Yet, it was in line with Scripture. Most assuredly, PAUL experienced this and knows it! Acts 18:1-11, 23:11. Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace."

"Paul admittedly stated he lacked eloquence in speech (but was told that his writing was weighty and strong --2 Cor 10:9-10 and 2 Cor 11:6). In 2 Cor 11:16, he stated that what he lacked in speech, he had in knowledge, and what we KNOW and understand, we speak of well."

"One of my favorite passages is 1 Corinthians 2 which tells us that Christian revelation is taught by the Spirit-- it is NOT by human wisdom. And my message and my preaching were not in persuasive words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, and that your faith should not rest on the wisdom of men, but on the power of God.(1 Cor 2:4-5). 1 Cor 2:13 also teaches us that the writers of scripture WERE divinely taught; their writings were of the Spirit!"

"Ron Choong's grievances against Paul make my blood boil! What makes it boil even more is Tim Keller's apparent approval of it."

"Ron C. is positioned in such a way so that he can cause maximum damage. He is supported financially and otherwise by some of the most conservative bastions in this town. When Christians hear him speak, they understandably conclude that his ideas reflect those of these bastions, and they also erroneously conclude Bible-believing Christian scholarship supports him."

"I therefore informed one pastor that I'd prefer his church supported Richard Dawkins -- someone who would do less damage, because he'd automatically be dismissed by Christians, knowing that their own teachers could supply answers to Dawkins!"

When one of our team members got asked to join a Bible study affiliated with Redeemer, here was her respnse:

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INVITATION TO THIS BIBLE STUDY BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I WILL HAVE TO DECLINE OVER DOCTRINAL AND BIBLICAL DIFFERENCES IN THE FAITH BETWEEN WHAT REDEEMER ESPOUSES AND WHAT I BELIEVE AND HOLD TO BE TRUE.

Apparently, and in case you may not be aware, Redeemer has been and continues to preach another gospel which is not Biblical and denies the authority of the Scriptures, their infallibility and their being inspired sovereignly by God through Holy Men and Wise Men by way of the Holy Spirit.

They are on board with the environmental movement's agenda and the Gaia worship new age mysticism prevalent today, and are seeking to make the Bible fit this new paradigm of thought and belief. They doubt the accuracy of the Word of God and endorse and allow false teachers into the midst of their congregation espousing doctrines of demons and seducting spirits, leading the sheep away from the SHEPHARD, all the while tickling the ears with intellectualism clothed in "righteousness" and "christianese", but denying the Power.

I also cannot agree with their stance toward Israel and her people as concerns eschatology and their role and purpose in God's plan for the endtimes, and I do not support their belief in Replacement Theology and Dominionism.

One of the Pastors/Elders/Deacon's (not sure of his title) has been teaching a class regarding a lot of these topics which subvert THE FAITH delivered once for all to the saints, and is casting dispersions upon the truth of the Gospel and the trustworthiness of Scriptures.

As such, I must and will part ways with anyone who doubts what God Himself says about Himself and His Word, both written and manifested in the flesh by way of the Messiah and Savior Jesus Christ, who don't believe in a literal interpretation of the Word, and who don't believe in the promises and covenants that God made with his people, Israel, and to His Bride, the Church, the called out ones.

We are told time and again to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints and to have no fellowship with darkness. I have to say that what I see occurring in many once biblically-solid churches today is outright apostasy and even heresy. As such, how can two walk together unless they be agreed?

If you really want to know more about this situation, I have an eyewitness report and several references which I could provide for your edification.

In spite of this, I am a friend and a sister and I feel I had to be honest with you, so I hope that you will accept this explanation in the intention it is meant.

I also pray that you will heed what I am saying and at least question and search out what is taking place. Several people whom I know and used to attend Redeemer have also suffered these discoveries and have since left that fellowship as they cannot reconcile what is being taught with the Bible and apostolic doctrine.

May God bless you in all your endeavors.